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Carl Sagan's Extended Kardashev Scale.

Updated: Jan 27

The Kardashev Scale is a theoretical concept developed by the Russian astrophysicist Nikolai Kardashev in 1964 to measure the level of technological advancement of a civilization based on its energy consumption. The scale is divided into three types of civilizations, based on the amount of energy they are capable of harnessing and utilizing.


  • Type I Civilization

A Type I Civilization is one that is capable of utilizing all the energy resources available on its planet. This includes harnessing energy from its star, such as solar power, as well as geothermal energy and other renewable sources. A Type I Civilization has the ability to control its weather, prevent natural disasters, and fully explore and utilize its planet's resources.


  • Type II Civilization

A Type II Civilization is one that is capable of utilizing all the energy available in its solar system. This includes harnessing the energy of its star and all the planets and other celestial bodies in the system. A Type II Civilization would have the ability to travel and colonize other planets and explore the entire galaxy.


  • Type III Civilization

A Type III Civilization is one that is capable of utilizing all the energy available in its galaxy. This includes harnessing the energy of all the stars, planets, and other celestial bodies in the galaxy. A Type III Civilization would have the ability to manipulate space-time and travel across vast distances in the galaxy.


The Kardashev Scale has become a popular tool for science fiction writers, futurists, and scientists to discuss and explore the potential of human civilization. It is important to note, however, that the scale is purely theoretical, and we have not yet reached a Type I Civilization. In fact, some scientists estimate that we are currently somewhere between a Type 0 and a Type I Civilization, depending on how we measure our energy consumption.


Carl Sagan extends the Kardashev Scale with two additional types.


Type 4


A Type 4 civilization is one that is capable of utilizing all the energy available in its entire universe. This includes harnessing the energy of multiple galaxies and possibly even dark energy.


& Type 5


Type 5 Civilization: The highest level on the scale, a Type V civilization is one that is capable of manipulating and controlling the fabric of space-time itself. This civilization would have the ability to create and shape entire universes and possibly even multiverses. Maybe that's where the DMT entities live. ;)


Sagan's extended Kardashev Scale reflects his belief that the original scale did not fully account for the vast potential of technological advancement and the role of sustainability in achieving higher levels of civilization. It also underscores the idea that there may be civilizations out there that are vastly more advanced than we can currently imagine, with capabilities that go beyond our current understanding of science and technology.


Another important aspect of Sagan's extended Kardashev Scale is that it highlights the interconnectedness of technological advancement and social progress. While the original scale focused solely on a civilization's ability to harness energy, Sagan recognized that this is only one part of the equation. In order to achieve higher levels of civilization, we must also address social and environmental issues and strive towards a more sustainable and equitable world.


Other ppls ideas on the Kardashev Scale.


Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist and popular science communicator, has also discussed the Kardashev Scale and its potential implications for advanced civilizations. While he has not proposed an extension of the scale like Carl Sagan, he has provided additional insights and commentary on the topic.


One of Kaku's key contributions to the discussion of the Kardashev Scale is his concept of a "Type 0.5" civilization. This is a civilization that has not yet achieved the status of a Type I civilization but is in the process of doing so. According to Kaku, we are currently a Type 0.7 civilization, meaning that we have not yet harnessed all the energy resources available on our planet but are moving towards greater sustainability and global unity.


Kaku has also discussed the potential risks and challenges associated with civilizations that have advanced beyond a Type III on the Kardashev Scale. In his book "The Future of Humanity," he suggests that Type III civilizations may be vulnerable to "catastrophic collapse" due to the potential for conflicts and instability on a galactic scale. He argues that the key to avoiding this outcome is for advanced civilizations to become more collaborative and cooperative, rather than competing with each other for resources and power.


John Barrow, a mathematician and cosmologist, proposed an alternative version of the Kardashev Scale in his book "Impossibility: The Limits of Science and the Science of Limits." Barrow's scale focuses on the energy required to transmit information across a given distance, rather than the total energy consumption of a civilization. This scale ranges from "Homo Sapiens" (unable to transmit any information beyond the range of unaided senses) to "Godlike" (able to transmit information across the entire universe).


Freeman Dyson, a physicist and mathematician, proposed a modification of the Kardashev Scale in which he replaced the measurement of energy consumption with the measurement of processing power. Dyson suggested that advanced civilizations might be more interested in processing information than in harnessing energy.


Paul Davies, a physicist and cosmologist, has proposed that the Kardashev Scale may be an oversimplification and that there may be multiple dimensions to a civilization's level of advancement. In his book "The Eerie Silence," Davies suggests that we should look for other signs of advanced technology beyond the mere harnessing of energy, such as evidence of artificial intelligence or the manipulation of spacetime. Black holes?


Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the SETI Institute, has suggested that the Kardashev Scale may be useful in searching for signs of extraterrestrial intelligence. By looking for evidence of advanced civilizations that are harnessing large amounts of energy, we may be able to narrow down our search for other intelligent beings in the universe.


Ray Kurzweil, a futurist, inventor, and author, has not explicitly discussed the Kardashev Scale in his writing, but his ideas on the Singularity and the future of technological progress are closely related to the concept of a Type III civilization.


Kurzweil believes that we are rapidly approaching a "Singularity," a point in the future when technological progress will accelerate exponentially, leading to transformative changes in human society and potentially even the emergence of a new form of intelligence. This vision of the future is similar to the idea of a Type III civilization, which would have harnessed all the energy resources of its galaxy and achieved a level of technological advancement that is difficult for us to comprehend.


Kurzweil's view of the future also incorporates the idea of a "Technological Singularity," in which artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence and begins to drive further technological progress. This idea is relevant to the Kardashev Scale because it suggests that advanced civilizations may not necessarily rely solely on energy consumption as a measure of their level of advancement, but could instead rely on other measures such as computational power and AI.


Holocene Age


The Holocene epoch is a geological epoch that began around 11,700 years ago at the end of the last ice age and continues to the present day. It is the current epoch of the Quaternary Period in the geologic time scale. The Holocene is marked by a period of relative stability in the Earth's climate, with minor fluctuations in temperature and sea level over the past 11,000 years.



During the Holocene epoch, humans developed agriculture and began to form settled communities, leading to the rise of civilization. The Holocene is sometimes referred to as the Anthropocene, a term that reflects the significant impact that humans have had on the planet's ecosystems and geological processes during this period.


Well, this sounds like the beginning of a type 1 civilization or 0.5 civilization. Is technology about to bring us into a new age?


The Information Age


The Information Age refers to the period of human history characterized by the widespread use and reliance on digital technology to process, store, and transmit information. It is also sometimes referred to as the Digital Age, Computer Age, or New Media Age.


It began in the mid-20th century with the development of the first computers and the subsequent explosion in the amount of data that could be processed and stored electronically. With the advent of the internet in the 1990s, the amount of information available to individuals around the world increased exponentially, and the pace of technological progress has continued to accelerate since then.


The ability to access and manipulate data has become a critical driver of economic, political, and social change. The rise of social media, big data analytics, and other digital technologies has given rise to new forms of communication and new ways of organizing information. It has had a profound impact on many aspects of human society, from the way we communicate and do business to the way we learn and entertain ourselves.


Some even believe that information is the 5th state of matter. Read more on that here.



Moore's Law


Moore's Law is a prediction made by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel Corporation, in 1965 that the number of transistors on a microchip would double every 18 to 24 months. In other words, the computing power of a microchip would double approximately every two years.


Moore's Law has held true for several decades and has been a driving force behind the rapid advancements in computing technology that we have seen in recent years. As the number of transistors on a microchip increases, the chip becomes more powerful and capable of


processing larger amounts of data in less time. This has led to the development of faster and more powerful computers, smartphones, and other electronic devices that have revolutionized the way we live, work, and communicate.



While Moore's Law has been remarkably accurate over the years, some experts believe that it may be approaching its limits as we reach the physical limitations of how small we can make transistors. As the size of transistors approaches the atomic level, it becomes increasingly difficult to improve their performance using traditional manufacturing techniques. However, Moore's Law is not dead, it's just slowing down and many researchers are working on new technologies, such as quantum computing and nanotechnology, which could potentially continue the trend of increasing computing power in the future.



Technological Transcendence


Technological transcendence refers to the idea that humans can use advanced technology to fundamentally alter the human condition and achieve a higher level of existence. This concept is often associated with the field of transhumanism, which seeks to use technology to enhance human abilities and extend human lifespan.


One of the key ideas behind technological transcendence is that human beings are not limited to their biological bodies and that they can transcend these limitations using technology. For example, proponents of transhumanism often talk about the possibility of enhancing human intelligence, strength, and longevity through the use of technology such as brain-computer interfaces, genetic engineering, and artificial intelligence.


Another key aspect of technological transcendence is the idea that it will allow humans to achieve a higher level of consciousness or even a post-human state. This could involve merging human consciousness with advanced artificial intelligence or creating new forms of consciousness altogether.



Simulations


The Kardashev Scale leaves out simulations, something a civilization may end up transcending into rather than exist in the real world. After all, if technology advances to the extent that it were possible to download consciousness into a computer then it would be possible to create whatever worlds we wish, especially if information is a state of matter. Essentially, it would be like heaven since we'd be able to create utopias and paradises.



In the real word, a type 3 civilization may create something known as a Dyson Sphere. A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure proposed by the physicist Freeman Dyson in 1960 that would surround a star and capture its entire energy output. The idea behind a Dyson sphere is that it would provide a civilization with an almost limitless supply of energy, as the entire energy output of the star would be directed towards the civilization's use.


A Dyson sphere could take several forms, but the most common proposed design is a swarm of orbiting solar panels that would encircle the star at a distance of several million miles. These solar panels would be connected by a network of wires and beams, creating a giant sphere or disk that would capture all of the energy emitted by the star.


The construction of a Dyson sphere would be an immense engineering challenge, requiring the mobilization of vast amounts of resources and the development of advanced technologies. Some estimates suggest that it could take thousands of years to construct a Dyson sphere, even with advanced automation and manufacturing technologies.


Who knows what would require such immense energy. Maybe those computers that run the simulations.


A star-sized computer would be an incredibly powerful computational device, capable of processing vast amounts of data and solving complex problems with ease. It would be able to harness the full energy output of a star, using this energy to power its processing capabilities and to cool itself down.


The construction of a star-sized computer would be an immense engineering challenge, requiring the mobilization of vast amounts of resources and the development of new technologies. It would likely require the construction of that Dyson sphere.


Once the Dyson sphere is constructed, the next step would be to build the computational infrastructure within it. This would involve the development of advanced computing technologies and the creation of a network of interconnected devices that can work together to process data.


The potential applications of a star-sized computer are vast, ranging from astronomical research to advanced simulations of complex systems. It could be used to model the behaviour of galaxies, simulate the evolution of life on other planets, or to analyse large data sets from telescopes and other astronomical instruments.


However, the construction of a star-sized computer also raises important ethical and existential questions. It is unclear what the long-term consequences of such a device would be, both for our understanding of the universe and for the future of humanity.


Moreover, the construction of a star-sized computer would require an immense amount of energy and resources, which may not be feasible in the long term. It is possible that we may need to develop new energy technologies or find alternative sources of energy to sustain such a device. But hypothetically speaking, those type 3 ETs will have no problem with such a feat.


Maybe the reason why we do not see alien civilizations is due to these ETs living inside simulations away from the inhospitable universe, especially if they knew about entropy! If advanced ETs known about entropy then in a simulation they go. In their simulation, they'd simply turn off entropy, goodbye thermodynamics!


ETs creating universes


In Sagan's type 4 civilization, ETs go outside of the universe and into the multiverse and create their own universe. They've fudged off somewhere else, they don't like it here; too much entropy. Maybe another answer to the Fermi Paradox. They'll create a universe or find another universe where entropy doesn't exist and become immortals.


Of course, all of this is highly speculative and the stuff of science fiction, but it is interesting to ponder, nonetheless.


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